Sun ASP

[CSN2271]

Does anyone know much about Sun ASP? Is it compatible with ASP.net?

If it is or not are there any plans to integrate this server scripting laguage into CS's servers to run alongside PHP and ASP?

http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/jsp-asp.html

[Carl Shepherdson]

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What you have got to remember that with shared hosting, the main thing is not whether you can get it running, its whether you can get it running securely. Running JSP on Windows is not well documentated, doesn't work particularly well anyway, and basically isn't worth the risk and all the problems! Plus it doesnt work with Helm and would mean setting things up manually. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif

[CSN2271]

Sure I can understand that.

But does anyone have an idea of the potential of this laguage for the future? It s now another scripting language in the PHP & ASP realm. It may be immature now but what about say in 5 years time?

If it looks like it could be a big player in the future, really I dont want to join the game late.

Ive read somewhere that Sun JSP/Chillsoft ASP can run scripts built with Microsoft ASP. However its not vey clear about this. Can anyone shed more light on this? Im just thinking about the possibilites for the future and a possible larger market share for ASP webpages if they could now be run on any platform any server.

[Carl Shepherdson]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(AlphOmega @ May 19 2006, 03:10 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'> Sure I can understand that.

But does anyone have an idea of the potential of this laguage for the future? It s now another scripting language in the PHP & ASP realm. It may be immature now but what about say in 5 years time?

If it looks like it could be a big player in the future, really I dont want to join the game late.

Ive read somewhere that Sun JSP/Chillsoft ASP can run scripts built with Microsoft ASP. However its not vey clear about this. Can anyone shed more light on this? Im just thinking about the possibilites for the future and a possible larger market share for ASP webpages if they could now be run on any platform any server. [/b][/quote]

Windows IIS is the the only true operating system for ASP / .net style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Helm Smilie.gif

[CSN2271]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CSN-Carl @ May 19 2006, 03:17 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Windows IIS is the the only true operating system for ASP / .net style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/Helm Smilie.gif
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Sure, I can understand that too.

I explain my view on this a little clearer. The main company I freelace to does not have a windows server. This is one reason why I use PHP, this way I can cater for all. However, if SUN/Chillsoft ASP is able to run Microsoft ASP scripts, then this gives me a gateway into using ASP. I have heard it is more object orientated than PHP.

It would work well as I can build ASP scripts on my space on your server then when my work is done, I can zip up the site and send it to the client to run on whatever server they choose to use.

I am just looking at how this will effect my future within my trade.

So really I was hoping for an insight to whether SUN/Chillsoft ASP is actually compatible or just a myth.

[Antaris]

JSP isn't a new technology, it's been around for a number of years now. It does have certain advantages, such as precompilation (in the same device-agnostic way that Java itself works), plus you have access to the entire java standard library (if made available to the server). But at the same time, running java based services that support JSP on top of IIS can cause system bottlenecks while the server is waiting for Tomcat (or whatever JSP/JavaBean server) to return. Its just too much overhead really.

As for Chillsoft ASP, generally its only used by Linux hosts providing support (albiet limited support) for Microsoft Active Server Pages. All in all, its not for Windows (why would it be? really?), plus its all been superseeded by ASP.NET now anyway.

Your right in thinking its more powerful than ASP, it has the java standard libraries behind it (as I mentioned before), but generally it is suited for specialised web servers (Apache/Tomcat), and seeing as the demand for such services isn't especially high, I can't see it being adopted.

If you serious about getting into JSP, have a look at Enterprise JavaBeans, which (although the latest version is very much like ASP.NET2) has a brilliant MVC approach to implementation.